She went on to marry a John/”Jack” Webb in Sutton, St Helens in 1941.
Louisa died in Cheshire in 1995.
She went on to marry a John/”Jack” Webb in Sutton, St Helens in 1941.
Louisa died in Cheshire in 1995.
Abigail, my great great grandmother, daughter of George and Emily (nee Shaw), was born on the 27th November 1876 at Silverdale, Staffordshire.
She married Thomas Pointon at St Mary, Knutton on the 13th June 1892, the couple moved from Staffordshire to St Helens, Lancashire between 1901 and 1903.
Abigail later went on to marry as a widow to Samuel Rimmer in 1938.
She died on the 20th April 1954 of carcinoma of the breast and cerebral haemorrage at Wybunbury, Cheshire, and was buried at St Nicholas, Sutton, St Helens on the 23rd April 1954.
Thomas was my great great grandfather, born on the 9th May 1872 at Vale Pleasant, Silverdale, Staffordshire to George (a miner) and Ann (nee Hough)
On the 13th June 1892, Thomas married Abigail Stockton, daughter of George and Emily (nee Shaw) at St Mary’s church, Knutton.
Thomas and Abigail had moved to St Helens, Lancashire from Staffordshire between 1901 and 1903 and had 4 children who survived – Frederick, Louisa, Alfred and John Thomas
He died on the 8th January 1927 at Francis Street, Sutton, St Helens and was buried at St Nicholas, Sutton on the 13th January 1927.
Ann married Fred Pointon at Sutton parish church on the 26th March 1921.
She died of a heart attack at Ashtons Green House in Parr on the 17th March 1984, and was cremated at St Helens on the 22nd March 1984.
Frederick/Fred Pointon was my great grandfather, the father of my grandad. He was born in Wrinehill, Staffordshire on the 17th March 1896 to Thomas and Abigail (nee Stockton).
Fred was baptised at St Margaret, Betley, Staffordshire on the on the 12th April 1896, of “Old Road”.
He was a coal miner for some time, later becoming a special constable, and served in the 11th South Lancashire regiment during World War 1.
Fred died on the 14th August 1971 in Sutton and was cremated on the 19th August 1971 at St Helens.
Until a couple of days ago, I was a little bit puzzled as to what happened to my 3rd great grandmother, Ann Hough, after her appearance with her husband, George Pointon, and family, in the 1881 census “Near Royal Oak”, Knutton, Staffordshire, England.
George had appeared in the 1891 census as married, at Vale Pleasant, Knutton, Staffordshire, an ironstone miner.
I found George Pointon’s death, caused by injuries due to an accident at the Harrison and Woodburn Pit, Leycett in 1894, however it puzzled me why I could not find any mention of Ann.
I had been searching for a possible death, with no luck, but then turned my attention to a possible marriage, and found it!
Ann Pointon, the daughter of John Hough (and Elizabeth Jones), a widow, married John Lloyd, a batchelor and a miner, father Edward, at Holy Trinity, Sneyd, Staffordshire on the 26th June 1894.
I found John and Ann Lloyd on the 1901 census at Tunstall, Staffordshire, with a son, John B(luch) Lloyd, born in about 1888. John Bluch Lloyd was born in 1887, and the mother’s maiden name was Hough.
The puzzle of where Ann was in 1891 had been cleared up, she was listed as Ann Lloyd in that year’s census, living with her future husband and son.
I also found the death registered in 1903 of Ann Lloyd.
So, not only had I discovered what happened to Ann, I had also found a new 3rd great uncle, I had never heard about before.
Moral of the story, if you think someone might have died, try checking for a marriage first. I certainly will.
Various notes on bits of paper i’ve gathered over the years. As always in these posts, not all of these people are related to me, but I noted these things down at the time as they could have been.
From the Staffordshire BMD indexes:
Hannah Pointon death registered 1871 Newcastle under Lyme, Audey sub district, ref. AUD/011/41
Hannah Pointon death registered 1877 Newcastle under Lyme, Audley sub district, ref. AUD/014/4
George Pointon death registered 1888 Newcastle under Lyme, Audley sub district, ref. AUD/018/99
Thomas Stockton married Mary H Grocott – St. Margaret, Wolstanton – 1873 – ref. C30/12/450
Alfred Stockton married Kate Lightfoot – St. Mary, Knutton – 1884 – ref. C15/1/101
Samuel Stockton married Jane Hughes – St. Mary, Knutton – 1887 – ref. C15/1/175
Alexander Stockton married Ellen Dickin – St. Luke, Silverdale – 1892 – ref. C26/1/458
William J Stockton married Elizabeth Key – St. Mary, Knutton – 1893 – ref. C15/1/383
Thomas Stockton married Rosalina Stubbs – St. Mary, Knutton – 1895 – ref. C15/1/408
From St. Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire parish registers:
Baptisms to John and Peggy Woodhouse –
Nancy on the 30th June 1791
Agnes on the 15th January 1789
Jane on the 3rd January 1799
Mary on the 3rd January 1796
Betty on the 11th April 1793
John on the 15th August 1802
Margaret on the 3rd April 1800
Thomas Dickinson on the 26th August 1805
From the GRO Index:
Alice Pedder death registered Lancaster March quarter 1843, ref. 21 362
Peter Pedder death registered Preston September quarter 1845, ref. 21 354
Mary Ann Bradshaw death registered Lancaster March quarter 1850, ref. 21 382
James Docker death registered Ulverston March quarter 1857, ref. 8e 428
Isabella Willison death registered Ulverston March quarter 1895 aged 69, ref. 8e 641
James Holme death registered Kendal March quarter 1840, ref. 25 331
James Holme death registered Ulverston March quarter 1868, aged 67, ref. 8e 472
From the 1841 England Census
36 Bridge Lane, Lancaster –
William Bradshaw – 37 – Blockmaker – born Lancashire
Mary Ann Bradshaw – 37 – born Lancashire
Edward Bradshaw – 11 – born Lancashire
Margaret Bradshaw – 5 – born Lancashire
Betsy Bradshaw – 9 months – born Lancashire
12 St. George’s Quay, Lancaster –
Christopher Bradshaw – 65 – Burtons mariner – born Lancashire
May C. Bradshaw – 60 – born Lancashire
Agnes Bradshaw – 20 – born Lancashire
Under Gardens, Damside Street, Lancaster –
Edward Bradshaw – 32 – currier & leather dealer – born Lancashire
Margaret Bradshaw – 32 – not born Lancashire
William Bradshaw – 9 – not born Lancashire
John Bradshaw – 7 – not born Lancashire
Elizabeth Bradshaw – 6 – born Lancashire
Hannah Bradshaw – 2 – born Lancashire
Margaret Bradshaw junior – 8 months – born Lancashire
From the 1851 England Census:
Parr Stocks, Parr –
Peter Cundliffe – Head – coal miner – 56 – born Parr
Mary Cundliffe – Wife – 55 – born Parr
Joseph Cundliffe – Son – coal miner – 16 – born Parr
Saml. Cundliffe – Son – coal miner – 13 – born Parr
John Cundliffe – Son – wid. – coal miner – 35 – born Parr
Miles Cundliffe – Son – wid. – coal miner – 32 – brn Parr
Mary Cundliffe – G. Dau. – scholar – 8 – born Parr
John Cundliffe – G. Son – scholar – 10 – born Parr
Ralph Cundliffe – G. Son – scholar – 8 – born Parr
Mary Cundliffe – G. Dau. – scholar – 6 – born Parr
And from the 1861 England Census:
Park Road Beerhouse, Parr –
Thomas Francis – Head – marr. – 40 – Beerseller – born Parr
Esther Francis – Wife – marr. – 40 – born Parr
Wm. Francis – Son — 18 – born Parr
John Francis – Son – 15 – born Parr
Ellen Francis – Dau – 8 – born Parr
Elizth. Francis – Dau. – 2 – born Parr
Samuel Francis – Son – 4 mths. – born Parr
This is the second in a series of posts looking at excerpts from newspapers.
From the Saturday 15th December 1849 edition of the Kendal Mercury:
At Whicham, Millom, on the 6th inst. , by the Rev. G. Wilkinson, rector, Mr Robert Holme, huntsman to G. Woodburne Esq. Thurston Ville, to Eleanor, niece of Mr G. Benson, Rallies, Whicham.
From the 21st October 1854 edition of the Lancaster Gazette:
Ulverston – On the 14th instant, at the Parish Church by the Rev. S. Robertson, curate, Mr Joseph Holmes, husbandman, Hazelrigg, Cartmel, to Miss Ellen Lowis of Newland, near Ulverston.
From the Saturday 9th July 1836 edition of the Staffordshire Advertiser:
To be imprisoned three months – Randle Pointon, for stealing from the person of Thomas Cooper, at Audley, two half-crown pieces, his property.
From the Saturday 12th March 1836 edition of the Staffordshire Advertiser:
To be imprisoned three calendar months – Jane Darlington, stealing a piece of Kenseymere Cloth, and other articles, the property of John Harding, at Audley.
From the Monday 19th July 1897 edition of the Liverpool Mercury:
Fatal Accident to a St. Helens Boy
Samuel Francis, 13 yrs old, son of Wm. Francis, a collier, of 296, Park Road, St. Helens, died on Saturday night from injuries received on the previous Thursday afternoon. Francis was in the employ of Councillor Ryder, mineral water manufacturer, and accidentally fell from a mineral water waggon at Burtonwood. He alighted on his head, and it was afterwards found that he had fractured the base of his skull. He gradually sank, and expired as stated.
From the Thursday 29th April 1937 edition of the Cornishman:
Mr M. Maddern, St. Just
The death occurred at his residence, 19 Pleasant Terrace, St. Just, on Wednesday, of Mr. Matthias Maddern. He was well known in agricultural circles, having farmed at Botallack for many years. He retired from farming within the last two years.
Mr Maddern was held in high esteem by all who knew him, and much sympathy will be extended to the widow and family in their irreparable loss.
The internment took place on Sunday afternoon at the Parish Church, St. Just, in the presence of a large number of sympathizers. The service was conducted by Rev. A Tampsett (curate)
The mourners were: Mrs Maddern and Mr R. Maddern (widow and son), Mr W. E. Maddern and Mrs M. E. Oats (son and sister), Mr J W Maddern and misses May and Mary Maddern (grandson and grand-daughters), Mr T. Maddern and Misses Hetty and Iris Maddern (brother and grand-daughters), Mr C. Maddern and Miss M. Oats (nephew and niece), Mr T. Maddern and Mrs R. Collins (cousins), Mr J. Maddern and Mrs W. E. Maddern (cousin and daughter in law), Mr W. Tregear and Mrs C. Maddern (cousin and niece), Mr F. Hocking and Mrs T. Maddern (cousins), Mrs J. Hocking and Mr J. T. Williams (sister-in-law and friend), Mr and Mrs J Hosking (niece and nephew), Mr B. Oats, Miss M. A. Oats and Mrs W. Hosking (cousins), Mrs T. Trevorrow, Mrs B. Hocking, Miss M. A. Pascoe, Mr J Dennis, Mrs W. Boase, Mrs J Hosking (cousins), Mr and Mrs H. Harry, Mr W. Harry, Mr T. Harry, Mr and Mrs Pope (friends) and others.
Floral tributes were: “Whith love.” from his sorrowing wife; “In loving memory,” from Robert, Hettie, Jim and family; “To dear father, with love,” from William Eddy and Rosie; “To dear Grandad,” from May, Mary, Hetty and Iris; “To darling granda, with little Maureen’s love”; “With deepest sympathy,” from R and T Collins, Newlyn; “With deepest sympathy,” from Mary, Ben and Florrie; “In loving memory,” from Willie Mabel and Elizabeth; “In affectionate remembrance, and with deepest sympathy,” from John and Lottie; “In loving memory,” from M.S.H. Harry and Henry; “With sincere sympathy,” from B. Lugg; “With deepest sympathy,” from Mr and Mrs Pope, Barwis Terrace, Penzance; “With deepest sympathy,” from Mrs Scutt and Eileen.
The bearers were Messrs. P. Rickard, P. Thomas, C. Gilbert, F. Stephens, R. Grenfell, and J. T. Williams.
The coffin was of unpolished panel elm, with solid brass furniture, with the inscription:
“Matthias Maddern, died 21st April 1937, aged 72 years.”
The undertaking arrangements were satisfactorily carried out by Jas. Roberts and Sons, St. Just. The motor hearse was supplied by Mr Hawken, Penzance, and the cars by Mr. H. Eddy, St. Just.
From the Saturday 18th June 1859 edition of the Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser:
Robert Lloyd Burrowes, of St. Helen’s, professor of Music, and John Knowles, jun. , of the same place, mine surveyor, for improvements in the construction of pianoforts and organs. Dated December 9, 1858.
Several of my Pointon/Poynton ancestors and related families lived in and around the Audley area.
Audley, as you can see from the map above, is situated in northern Staffordshire, with Betley, Wrinehill, Miles Green, Halmer End, Chesterton, Talke and Betley in Staffordshire, and Barthomley, and Alsager in Cheshire close by. The area historically had lots of coal mines, so if you have ancestors from the area, you’ll possibly have a miner among them.
My 7 times great grandfather, Randle Poynton, was baptised at Talke to Randle and Hannah on the 3rd April 1726. He went on to marry Sarah Whiteall at Audley in 1744.
Abel Dale, a husbandman, and Sarah Booker, one set of my 7th great grandparents married at Audley in 1756.
Another set of my 7th great grandparents, Oldcot Eardley and Cisley Ryley married at Audley in 1744.
So, there are quite a few of my ancestors from the area.
Interesting and useful websites about the area (some cover the wider region) include:
Wishful Thinking Staffordshire Local History includes MI collection, photograph index and Lichfield wills index
Yes, I have lots of notes, so, here are some more that are floating around on bits of paper. As with all in this series of research notes, not all of these individuals are related, I jotted things down at the time just in case they might be related.
From the Lancashire records office:
Reference QSP/2942/50 Date – 7th October 1830
Petitions – Kirkdale – Epiphany 1831
File Sutton – Order of filiation and maintenance of James, bastard child of John Allcock of Eccleston, labourer and Ellen Sherratt, singlewoman.
Lancaster: Order from 2 J.P.s of Lancaster to the Churchwarden and Overseers of the the Poor of Lancaster, to Convey Reuben Pym and Margaret, his wife to Banwell, Co. Somerset, their place of legal settlement. Copy 1 of 2
Dated 1st October 1817
1841 Census returns:
At Hindley Row, Burtonwood, Lancashire, England
Geo. Pownall – 65 – Weaver – born Lancashire
Betty Hill – 40 – widow – born Lancashire
Joseph Hill – 9 – born Lancashire
At Collins Green, Burtonwood
Wm. Hill – 25 – Joiner – Born Lancashire
Mgt. Hill – 25 – Born Lancashire
John Hill – 3 – Born Lancashire
Also at Collins Green
Wm. Hill – 75 – pauper – Born Lancashire
Ellen Whittle – 35 – Born Lancashire
Henry Hill – 12 – B’smith app – Born Lancashire
Mary Hill – 7 – Born Lancashire
Alice Whittle – 5 – Born Lancashire
Ann Whittle – 3 – Born Lancashire
Emma Whittle – 1 – Born Lancashire
At High Street, Newton, Lancashire, England
Moses Hill – 45 – Clogger – Born Lancashire
Ann Hill – 45 – Born Lancashire
Ann Hill – 15 – Born Lancashire
At Dallam Lane, Burtonwood, Lancashire
Thomas Parr – 50 – Ag lab. – Born Lancashire
Martha Parr – 50 – Born Lancashire
Vulcan Foundry, Newton, Lancashire
James Hill – 35 – labr. – Born Lancashire
Elizth. Hill – 30 – Born Lancashire
Mgt. Hill – 11 – Born Lancashire
Thomas Hill – 9 – Born Lancashire
John Hill – 7 – Born Lancashire
James Hill – 4 – Born Lancashire
Samuel Hill – 1 – Born Lancashire
Also at Vulcan Foundry
Isaac Hill – 25 – labr. – Born Lancashire
Charlot Hill – 25 – Born Lancashire
Samuel Hill – 7 – Born Lancashire
Mgt. Hill – 4 – Born Lancashire
John Hill – 3 months – Born Lancashire
From the probate index:
Thomas Chapman the elder died on the 3rd September 1865 at Ampthill. Will proved at the Principal Registry by oath of Thomas Chapman of Ampthill the son & sole executor. Effects under £3000
From the index of deaths:
March quarter 1959 – George W Pim – 59 – Burnley – ref. 10b 933
September quarter 1955 – Henry E Pimm – 9 – Blackburn – ref. 10b 320
December quarter 1953 – Elizabeth A Pim – 60 – Nelson – ref. 10e 516
December quarter 1952 – Herbert H Pym – 78 – Preston – 10f 292
March quarter 1952 – Amelia Pym – 80 – Fylde – 10c 302
December quarter 1949 – Alfred Pym – 86 – Lancaster – 10c 546
September quarter 1947 – Isabella Pym – 78 – Lancaster – 10c 422
March quarter 1947 – Jane A Pimm – 74 – Lancaster – 10c 780
December quarter 1946 – William Pym – 81 – Clitheroe – 10c 54
From St. Helens, Lancashire electoral registers, registered at each address on the 15th April 1923: (Spellings as per the electoral register)
31 Tickle Street – Francis, Ellen and William Bibby
2 Francis Street – Thomas Poynton and Abigail Poynton
19 Robins Lane – George Charles Pointon and Elizabeth Pointon
37 Sandon Street – Mary Caroline Carney, George Carney, Frederick Harrison Snr. and Frederick Harrison Jnr.
From the 1891 Census:
At 172 Parr Stocks Road, Parr
William Bibby – 46 – Head – Coal miner – Born St. Helens, Lancashire
Elizabeth Bibby – 53 – Wife – Born St. Helens, Lancashire
Annie Sharrocks – 8 – niece – Born Chowbent, Lancashire
At 57 Appleton Street, Sutton (All born St. Helens, Lancashire)
Will Harrison – 42 – Head – Collier
Alice Harrison – 38 – Wife
John Harrison – 18 – Son – Coal miner
Alice A Harrison – 15 – Daughter – [I started to write something then scribbled it out]
Fred K Harrison – 13 – Son – Drawer pusher – glass
Sarah Harrison – 10 – Daughter
Louisa Harrison – 8 – Daughter
Ellen Harrison – 6 – Daughter
Florence Harrison – 4 – Daughter
Robert Harrison – 1 – Son
And finally, some notes from the probate index:
Abraham Poynton died 11th August 1924 of 7 Laburnum Cottages, Crawshawbooth, Lancs. Admin 20th September 1924 to Norman Poynton cotton piecer. Effects £347 15s 8d
Thomas Pointon of 2 Francis Street, St. Helens died 8th Jan 1927. Admin Liverpool on the 24th March 1927 to Abigail Pointon widow. Effects £50
Jane Poynton of Netherfield Road North Liverpool (Wife of Wm. Henry) died 8th April 1904 Admin Liverpool to Wm. Henry, a carter. Effects £84 13s 4d
Mary Pointon of Miles Grn. Audley, Staffs. (Widow) died 5th September 1904. Probate Lichfield 16th February 1905 to Thomas Pointon miner. Effects £138 16s
Ellen Bibby of 229 Nutgrove Road, St. Helens, Lancs. widow died on the 24th July 1933. Probate London on the 8th August 1933 to Albert Winstanley, blacksmith and Ronald Maxwell, solicitor. Effects £343 5s 11d