The Pim/Pym family

Betsy Pimm, the daughter of Reuben and Ann (nee Bradshaw) was born on the 16th March 1839, and baptised at St. Mary, Lancaster/Lancaster Priory, on the 9th June that same year.  Reuben was a white smith.

Betsy went on to marry John Walter Chapman “son of Thomas and Sophie”, a carpenter, at St. Peter’s Roman Catholic Church in Lancaster in 1857.  They are one set of my three times great grandparents.

Betsy’s grandparents were Reuben and Margaret (nee Blaickow) who had married at St. Mary, Lancaster in 1785, both were of Skerton at the time of their marriage.  Reuben had previously been married to a Jane Butler at Lancaster  in 1782, at that time of the 47th regiment of foot.

On the first October 1817, a removal order was issued that stated “Reuben Pym and Margaret his wife” should be removed from Lancaster, to their “lawful settlement….of Banwell in the County of Somersett”

Reuben was buried at St. Mary, Lancaster on the 9th September 1821, aged 71, from the age given at his burial, we can guess that he was born in about 1750, and we can observe that clearly, Reuben and Margaret were not removed to Banwell in Somerset, or if they had been, had made their way back to Lancaster to live out the last years of their lives with their children surrounding them.

However, it does potentially give us a clue as to Reuben’s origins, Banwell in Somerset.

The Ancestry website has recently added some new records, interestingly, for Somerset, so I decided to do some searching for any potential clues.

There is a baptism of a Reuben Pim recorded at Banwell, Somerset.  But, it is in 1744, 6 years earlier than Reuben’s approximate date of birth, to William and Frances on the 18th May 1744.

This Reuben appears to have married an Anstice Kitching in 1765, then as a widower, to a Mary Quick in 1769.  And this is where it gets interesting.

On the 5th January 1783, there are 2 baptisms to Reuben and Mary at Banwell, Somerset.  William, aged 5 years 6 months, and Phillip, aged 19 months.

At 22 Marton Street, Lancaster, Lancashire on the 1851 Census are the following family:

Philip Pimm – Head – Mar. – 76 – Ship Carpenter – born Bristol, Somerset

Margaret Pimm – Wife – Mar. – 66 – born Lancaster, Lancashire

George Pimm – Son – Unmarr. – 24 – Cordwainer – born Lancaster

Robert Pimm – Son – Unmarr. – 17 – Tailor – born Lancaster

William Pimm – Grandson – 8 – scholar – born Lancaster

Maria Pimm – Grand dau – 3 – born Lancaster

This Philip Pim is most likely the same Philip who was baptised at Banwell, Somerset to Reuben and Mary, and due to the removal order naming Banwell, Somerset as the “lawful settlement” of Reuben and Margaret, it is highly likely that these families were closely linked in some way.

The Reuben baptised in 1744 at Banwell was either the same Reuben who went on to marry Jane Butler, then Margaret Blaickow in Lancaster, or, he was the Reuben who married Anstice Kitching, then Mary Quick in Somerset.

Could the 2 Reubens have been cousins?  The families must have known each other.

 

 

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